We've all tried it I think. We put a rider on the horse thinking, wow this was a tight fit, and suddenly the rider pops off.
How do you fix that? I have heard of hot water, but I am not too keen on melting my figures by accident, or scolding my hands. I have also heard of mangling (cutting into) the horses sides so that the rider fits, but that seems like a sad thing to do. So what do you do?
Bonjour, personnellement je trempe la figurine (les jambes) dans de l'eau très chaude. Puis, je place la figurine sur le cheval en attachant les jambes avec un fil sous le ventre du cheval, et je laisse refroidir. je peux éventuellement recommencer l'opération une autre fois. Je n'ai pas trouvé une autre solution fiable pour ce problème.
Effectivement cela peut être un peu chaud pour les doigts.
Juste une précision, l'eau doit être très chaude sans pour autant bouillir à 100]C. Elle doit être assez chaude pour ramollir le plastique, mais pas plus. Et c'est ensuite en refroidissant que le plastique doit prendre la forme désirée.
It's particularly a challenge with the 'springy' riders, but also those who are a little loose and can end up riding at 10–30º if one is not careful with the glueing! :) Mixing and matching horses and riders to represent specific units can make for some interesting fits too.
For what it is worth, here's my approach.
For the tight fit, I am a bit more 'direct' than Hervé—combining manual stretching and glue.
- Firstly, I match riders to the horses that best suit (for look and fit). - I then, widen the legs a bit manually; I find that there is enough 'give' in the figures to increased the rider's 'gait' quite a lot. - Then, apply glue to saddle and rider and hold for up to a minute or so or until the bond is made (depending on the glue). Detaching and re-glueing is necessary if patience has been lacking!
My preferred glue is a PVA type (sold as 'Aquadhere' here, or the stronger version which is called 'Bondcrete' in our market). I use this as if it were a 'contact' cement, applying to both parts, allowing to nearly dry and then combining and holding. For a more 'springy' rider and/or a tighter fit, I'll use a plastic glue (we have a version sold here with a primer pen and the glue, which is a 'Supa-glue' derivative), which bonds more instantly.
In more recent times I have taken to making pseudo one-piece-castings of horse and rider, glueing in place before painting or just with a bit of undercoat (dark in my case) on the contact points so as to avoid unpainted plastic showing. I find it works much better to paint in place like that rather than struggling with and handling a painted horse and rider trying to make the combination and risking rubbing off paint (since I varnish later). It also has the advantage of not putting effort into painting sections that will remain 'hidden' :).
I reckon that, if I cannot see it to paint it, it will not show on the finished figure, particularly when part of a unit on a tabletop. It helps that I'm not trying to win any painting awards!
I was going to try something like that. I wanted to try it yesterday, but, the superglue for all plastics that I had bought some 5 years ago or so, had all become hard as rock. Guess I should've been more active in gluing stuff. The glue was the kind that glues all types of plastics together, very fast. It has a primer too. I had two worries about doing it like that.
Firstly would the springly legs make such pressure on the glue that the bond eventually would give. The other worry was one of how I storage it, but I think I can handle storage problems better than the popping off problem. My boxes that I store in are not all big enough to handle the height this could give, but, I'll just use the boxes that have enough height.
I tried mixing and matching horse and rider. I was doing this for the Linear-A Etruscan cavalry. Love the set, so no knock there. The matching went well for about the first 7 of the 10 riders... but then came the problems, with the last 3 horses, and their riders.
Anyway, I would much rather have that the riders fit all the horses, since that would allow more poses. But that is something I cannot do anything about. Only those producing the sets can. I am sure this leads to other problems. Like too loose riders, and the engineering aspect of it, that may cause extra expenses. I am not sure if there is a great solution for those making the sets.
A tube of Loctite only plastics super glue, and applicator later, I have now glued 40 Etruscan Cavalry to their horses...
I only had to re-glue twice. That is two figures. As I got more skilled I could use less and less glue, to achieve the same results. 2ml stretches a long way. I guess I can do 48 figures per tube now that I found a way to do it, ...
We'll see what happens when it is time to paint. Will the paint stick, or fall off...
Hallo,möchte mich auch beteiligen,bei mir war die Sache so dass die Reiter immer vom Pferd fielen oder einfach in schieflage kamen und ich wollte sie nicht kleben so habe ich den Reiter auf das Pferd verstiftet. Ja,ist ein wenig zeitaufwendig aber die Reiter lassen sich immer wieder vom Pferd lösen,hierfür nehme ich 0,8 Draht,mit einem entsprechenden Bohrer ein Loch in den Sattel und beim Reiter ,ja ihr wisst wohin Praktich ,das Loch beim Reiter ist auch die Aufnahme des Sockels für die Bemalhilfe Sollte der Reiter mal nicht richtig aufs Pferd passen wurde er passen gemacht,mit dem Messer oder mit Hitze (ein geeigneter Lötkolben)
Yeah, I too have figures that have the problem. Who knows we may have bought some from the same manufacturer ... I imagine it is hard to get it just right. I'll keep your tip with putting a long hole (hand drilled) into a figure and then the rider, and then putting a piece of metal between and into the holes.
I find that it is worse when the rider doesn't really fit... and I am too clumsy with something that will melt the figure. I'd probably end up with two halves of a figure rather than a rider. So far the glue method is still working.
En fait, l'eau très chaude à pour effet de ramollir le plastique, et de lui redonner justement toute son élasticité pour le remodeler à la forme désirée.
Attention, il faut aller très vite, et immédiatement le plonger dans l'eau froide, ce qui figera de nouveau le plastique, et l'empêchera de reprendre sa mauvaise position initiale, que l'on a voulu justement, modifié. Car quoi qu'on en dise, la pastique à une mémoire, et si il n'est pas trempé dans l'eau froide rapidement, il reprendra exactement sa mauvaise forme du début.
Voilà un tuto que j'avais fait pour ma chaîne YouTube :
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... I imagine it is hard to get it just right. I'll keep your tip with putting a long hole (hand drilled) into a figure and then the rider, and then putting a piece of metal between and into the holes. 