Impressive and innovative for the 1/72 scale.

I agree Pablo.

Hi Stéphane, another great work. Painting the flag must have been difficult.

Bonjour Stéphane, nice colors, historically accurate. I like the color you used for the leather chest, the red clothing, and the metallic colors (for the helmets and full body armor).

Historical Accuracy 10
Pose Quality 10
Pose Number 10
Sculpting 10
Mould 10

You should fix the site.

Great painting and nice story. I like the painting technique you used.

The Ezerovo ring dates from the 5th century BC. On the ring is an inscription in the Thracian language written in Greek script. One translation is: "I am Rolistheneas, a descendant of Nerinus. Tilezypta, a woman of Arazia, delivered me to the ground."
Village of Ezerovo (Plovdiv Province, Bulgaria).
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Bonjour Pablo.
Yes, I can't answer all the questions about the Thracians. They are indeed a black hole in history, like many other peoples.
But I can say with certainty that culturally they were influenced by the Greeks. Certainly not by the Persians. We reach this conclusion by searching for information related to their religion and language. The Thracians worshipped the same gods as the Greeks, clearly influenced by them. Also, the Thracians had their own language, Thracian, but they did not have writing.
They borrowed the Greek script. All inscriptions in the Thracian language that have been found are written in Greek script.
The theory that the Thracians disappeared over time is not accepted in Greece. The Thracians, at least in Northern Greece and Eastern Turkey, were Hellenized and assimilated. Officially in Greece we consider the Thracians as a part of modern Greece.

The Thracian population reached 1,000,000 and was divided into at least 40 tribes. Herodotus describes the Thracians as the most numerous people after the Indians. As you rightly mention, the Greeks feared the Thracians, as they lived in terror of an invasion from the North that would wipe out their civilization.
The Odrysians were the first Thracian tribe to acquire a state entity, uniting other Thracian tribes under their leadership. This happened around 470 BC, after the Persians left Greece. As you correctly mention, at that time Greece was divided into city-states. Except for Thessaly and Macedonia, which formed kingdoms.

Zitat von Dioclétien im Beitrag #5

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Hello Dianelis,
so a multitude of riders from only 2 figurines !!
I recognize indeed these two characters.
On the question of the Thracian history, I don't necessarily know more than you.
I was became interested in these Thracians by doing some researches - and files - because this people represents a bit of a "black hole" in our historical knowledge, a little bit like the Ilyrians, "the Roman conquest of Britain", or maybe even the Scythians (Sakas)..
And I completely understand your interest for these Ancient inhabitants of the Balkans .
After if you are some answers or informations on the rise of this kingdom of the Odrysses, why not?
Coud be very interesting .
If you take the example of the Asia Minor, at the time of Mithridates , we clearly see on the political level, the Greek and the Iranian influences among different kingdoms (Achemenid Persians, then Parthian).
So what about the "barbarian" Thracians..?

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Bonjour Pablo, we could start a discussion about the "unknown" Thracians by saying that they were a tribal group of the Indo-European race, like the Celts, the Greeks, the Illyrians and many others. They also migrated to the region around 2000 BC, that is, the same period that the Greeks migrated to their own region.

Zitat von Brist im Beitrag #9

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Bonjour George,

magnifique cavaliers ! Très belles peintures, et tes socles sont toujours aussi beaux également.

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Merci beaucoup Stéphane.

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Hello Dianelis,
so a multitude of riders from only 2 figurines !!
I recognize indeed these two characters.
On the question of the Thracian history, I don't necessarily know more than you.
I was became interested in these Thracians by doing some researches - and files - because this people represents a bit of a "black hole" in our historical knowledge, a little bit like the Ilyrians, "the Roman conquest of Britain", or maybe even the Scythians (Sakas)..
And I completely understand your interest for these Ancient inhabitants of the Balkans .
After if you are some answers or informations on the rise of this kingdom of the Odrysses, why not?
Coud be very interesting .
If you take the example of the Asia Minor, at the time of Mithridates , we clearly see on the political level, the Greek and the Iranian influences among different kingdoms (Achemenid Persians, then Parthian).
So what about the "barbarian" Thracians..?

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I can't claim to know much more about the history of the Thracians either. My interest started from the fact that their history is connected to Greek history. A nice book I read about the Thracians is the following:
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Very nice GeorgeDianelis!

I have never seen anything like them. They are very good. You seem to have kitted them out as the light infantry man as well. Would it be wrong for me to assume that there were a Thracian (Medium) Cavalry type too. Owning a horse seems like a wealthy thing to have.

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Thank you Claus.
Yes, the horsemen are placed on the bases so that they represent light cavalry (2 horsemen per base). No, the Thracians did not have medium cavalry. I think the problem was not the maintenance of the horse but the purchase of the equipment. I have come to this conclusion because we see warriors who have a horse but do not have armor. The warriors who had armor were Thracian nobles.

Salute Pablo, thank you for your comments.
The figures come from the Zvezda Macedonian Cavalry and Hät Alexander's allied Cavalry boxes.
I used the following two figures:
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But as I wrote, they have undergone many modifications so that they are unrecognizable. I changed the arms, legs, heads, added shields and sword sheaths. I also made a banner.
I should add that the helmet in the photo is a Thraco-Phrygian bronze helmet with silver appliques. Pletena, first half of the 4th century BC.
For the remaining questions, I think we can start a nice discussion. But will you allow me to consult my books before I start writing anything, because it has been years since I read about the Thracians.

Bonjour Stéphane,
Your review is very harsh. Personally, I'm not interested in buildings either, but I have to admit that it's impressive how faithfully they replicated the real building.
But we can stay true to the figures.

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Ich finde übrigens auch den toten Elefanten großartig. Ist zwar schade um das schöne Tier, aber etwas Vergleichbares gibt es im 1/72 Bereich noch nicht. Micht erinnert das arme Tier ein wenig an den toten Elefanten der Epic Hail Caesar Reihe in 13,5 mm. Sei es drum. Das Set will ich unbedingt haben.

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Yes Bruno I was also saddened that this elephant died. I'd rather have him alive.

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Hello Dianelis,

I don't quite agree with you.
I attached a real photo of an Indian elephant compared to its mahut .
And you can read here an extract from Wikipedia which indicates the average sizes of males (the largest) and females.
Finally one of the photos of Linear A with infantrymen near the elephants.
These Linear éléphants barely exceed 2 meters. In my opinion they are so a little small , unless we consider that we have four - sorry only three - living female elephants. (2,5 meters high in average).
Afterwards, indeed, the elephants of Zvevda are much too big!

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Hi Pablo, looks like you are right. If we assume that warriors have an average height of 1.75 m, these elephants are just over 2 meters tall. Their size is more suited to African elephants. But we know for sure that Pyrrhus' elephants were Asian from the Seleucid kingdom.

Zitat von cernief im Beitrag #27

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I think the problem with the composition of this set is that two groups are being served at the same time. One is the wargamers, another is the dioramist. Usually when you make compromises like that, then nobody is happy. In this case, I might buy a single set, because I like the 2 (out of 4) elephants, but I won't by 2 sets (which I could have, if there were 3 elephants). But I look at it from the wargamers point of view. The dioramist might buy more of them... Or maybe not.

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Yes of course, I am judging this set as a wargamer. The rating is purely my subjective opinion. If I could be asked about the figures with the sarises (pikes), I would prefer the sarises to be all vertical. Unfortunately, however, throughout the 1/72 scale, the figures in the front rows have the pikes in a horizontal position. Anyway I will buy this set once too and use the 3 live elephants.