Einfach WOW - extrem gut.

Your question is to simplify does he keep his Cretans he had in Belgium 57 until Pharsalos? First the Cretans were mercenaries - he had to pay a awful lot money to keep them. Then he fought against Pompey who was in possession of Crete. Pompey ruled over the Cretan territory and therefore over their homes and their families - and Pompey emplored Cretan mercenaries - most likely relatives of those "Belgium" Cretans. Would they stay for more than ten years at Caesars side ? They had a choice legionaries did not have. They could cancel their mercenary employment. They were not drafted, they were not obliged to fight for the Fatherland. Did mercenaries from a poleis or small hellenistic entity fight mercenaries on the opposing side from the same poleis or entity? Or did they refuse to fight their kin?

Then why did Caesar mention the Cretans by their name defending a Belgian town and fighting against the Belgians but did not name them afterward - even when they defeated the dreadful elefants? He named Germanic and Gallic Horsemen, Glatian (Deiotaric) Legionaries or even Iberian fighters when he used them.

There are arguments that he used Cretans all the time - but these are founded simply on the fact, that he used them once in Belgium and that they were renowned to be the best. That are valid arguments.

But my arguments against the use of Cretans at Pharsalsus are also valid. He did not mention them - he even names celtic cavalry deserting him. He never names any Cretans after Belgium. I do not know any battle of either the Gallic War nor the Civil War that has been influenced by bowmen of the Roman Caesarian army. How many Cretan archers were there anyway? Were there enough to serve in both armies? Alexander the Great employed 500 Cretan archers ( at Granicos), Antiochos the III had 1500 Cretans at Raphia and supplemented them by 1000 Neo-Cretans fighting in Cretan Style.

So there were only a few Cretans available at all. Did Crassus hire Cretans for his Parthian Campain? How many Cretans did Pompey employ? Were there any Cretan archers left to hire for Caesar? I doubt that.

At the time of the Battle of Pharsalos Crete was in the realm of Pompey. Did a unit of Cretian Archers at any time did fight another unit of Cretian archers? They were mercenaries neither fighting for a common cause or their "imperator".

Die Ausrüstung war meiner Kenntnis nach über die Jahrhunderte sehr konsistent. Grundlage war ein kretischer Bogen. Dazu ein Dolch oder ein Kurzschwert und ein kleiner Schild für die linke Hand, ein Köcher der wohl auch als Holster für den Bogen diente. Gerne wurden auch Helme getragen, hier und da wohl auch Rüstungen.

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In his own book Caesar mentions even more than one centurion by name praising their individual deeds.

Archers were auxiliaries - never legionaries or part of a republican legion. The X Legion took part in the advance against the Pompeians - but this was a melee fight. Caesar in fact used Cretans during the fighting against the Belgians in 57 bc "combat at the Miette" and never mentions them afterwards neither in the Gallic War nor the Civil War. (Source: JULIUS

D’Amato, Raffaele; Gilbert, Francois. Armies of Julius Caesar 58–44 BC (Elite Book 241) (English Edition) (S.5). Bloomsbury Publishing).

Where do You fin proof, that the X Legion had Cretan archers in their ranks?

Show me the List for Pharsalos!

Bilder gibt es hier:
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Keine Frage - diese Figuren sind historisch akurat und sehr schön modelliert. Ich werde die sicher auch kaufen. Leider kann ich sie aber nicht Caesar bei Pharsalus zuschreiben - denn dort hatte er die wohl nicht unter seinem Kommando.

Wo werden kretische Bogenschützen explicit erwähnt?

Natürlich bei Alexander dem Grossen. Dann hier und da bei den Diadochen als Söldner. König Hieron von Syrakus sandte solche Truppen den Römern zur Unterstützung zur Schlacht von Cannae gegen die Balearischen Schleuderer.

Caesar sandte Kreter als Verstärkung in die Stadt der Remer (?) als er gegen die Belgier zog.

Bei der Schlacht von Idestaviso rettete Germanicus die KReter die den GErmanen unerwartet direkt gegenüber standen.

Da gibts sicher noch mehr.

Sehe ich auch so. Dieses Set betreffend würde ich ein richtiges Set Kretische Bogenschützen vorziehen und diese Bogenschützen durch Legionäre mit Pilum oder eben Speer/Pike ersetzen, dann wäre es ein tolles passendes Pharsalos Set. Ein Set kretische Bogenschützen könnte man über einen enormen Zeitraum verwenden - mindestens von Alexander bis Germanicus.

Concerning Pharsalos there ought to be Legionaries armed with lances / spear to confront / trick those Pompeian Horses included.

Hmmn, I do not remember the use of bowmen during this battle. A Legionary using a sling is fine. I do recommend to rename this set for "Battle of Dyrracheion" . The battle preceding Pharsalos when Caesar and Pompey fought Alesia Style digging trenches and erecting walls and palisades to blockade the other party. This would be a proper battefield for those bowmen. I do like those Legionaries with different armour and the oval but large scutum shield. Very nice proper figures.

I support that thinking. These are ancients -figures of people farely nobody knows. So I take the bitter pill and pay more to see them. I do not like WW2 figures ( sorry for Caesar Miniatiures Germans) .

Ich hoffe immer noch auf Linear A Sets der iberischen Halbinsel.

Bringt Mars Antike?

Ich supporte Linear A - die bauen aktuell die besten Antiken und das viel preiswerter.

Ist denn abzusehen, wann die in den Shop kommen?

Angesichts der Qualität ist das nur sehr wohl verdient.

Das bringt doch große Vorfreude auf die kommenden Sets. Sehr gute Assyrer - holla, weitere Karthager, Römer, Hellenen etc.. Das wird noch sehr interessant.

Concerning the slinger - the Samnites were a pastoral economy herding goats and cattle and the sling is the pastoral weapon anywhere, so I do not have any problems with the sling. But the archer is another thing. There is no archery tradition in the Italian tribes. King Hieron send as an ally of Rome some Cretan Mercenaries to Rome prior to Cannae to compensate this. Are there any depictions of ancient Italic archers?